Board Thread:Help Desk/@comment-5785168-20140417115938/@comment-5754239-20140418030615

Rebuttal to GorillaMan's above statements- GorillaMan wrote: I don't quite understand you[r] point about "most pages not having enough information", what I tried to do with the new layout is to take the [infobox], take the information from it and distribute it around the page to ensure there are no black [I think you mean "empty"] spaces.

Seeing as you diffused the point I was going to make (that pages that just have an infobox will not have enough information), I'll let that go. the information [from the Smoothie Mixer page] fits perfectly into the mould, just visit the links I wouldn't say "perfectly" at this very moment, since I've noticed that most of images of the products (as well as information about the products themselves) do not fit onto the page. In my point of view, this makes the items less important and simply just something that it makes. Clicking the links won't be an appealing way to navigate the page if it's simply means clicking on instead of The information presented is exactly the same, just spread out. There is a huge difference between the infobox, sections, and the information on the current Smoothie Mixer page versus your layout. A reader does not see anything about the products the Smoothie Mixer produces or the pictures that come with completing Smoothie Mixer mastery. In other more detailed pages, such as Roadside Shop, your layout, in its current form, cannot replace the sections with simple bullet points. I would also like to add from a "wiki member['s]" perspective it is easier to edit normal pages rather than templates. Most pages use a template, that are created by those who have a higher understanding of coding, which should always have a documentation section that tells a "wiki member" how to use it. In your layout, a person has to copy and paste the entire code and sift through the code in order to fill information in. In templates, one simply has to fill in a parameter with what they want. This is what your layout's code looks like for the main bit (the blue box): This is what the infobox's looks like: Whereas your layout may be immediately confusing to any editor at first glace, the current layout simply involves filling things in.
 * Berry smoothie
 * Green Smoothie
 * Yogurt Smoothie

I'd also like to point out that if you do not have a good understanding of coding, you are going to have a hard time on any wiki. If you have any difficulties, you can ask myself, GorillaMan, Lamiah, or any other experienced editor for help. I did try to make it [the layout] look similar to the Clash of Clans and Boom Beach wiki[s] as I think it would look much more professional if all Supercell wikis had the same feel to them. While I agree with the last phrase, I have to point out that although Clash of Clans and Boom Beach are similar games and should have similar layouts, Hay Day is different from all the others. While the former two games are part of the "build a base and raid" genre (I can't even find a name to it), Hay Day is a farming simulator. Farming simulators have many more items and quirks that can't simply be contained within a few pages like in the Clash of Clans and Boom Beach wikis. They have too many things and too many details. Too long; didn't read-Don't break what isn't fixed. Anyway, thanks for reading my rant. ~ironwestie (talk) 03:06, April 18, 2014 (UTC)